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While I share the sentiment, the bishop cannot throw the pastor under the bus anymore than he already threw himself - the parishioners likely lost some respect for him and the bishop can’t make him look even more pathetic than the pictures. As these parishioners (men and women) already did the right thing in this situation, not sure how helpful it would be to criticize those who panicked.

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I will be honest that I don't really see what the issue is here. The woman and the man probably dealt with it bc the gunman entered through the front door and they were the first people there- there's also no mention of children around in the back so they both might have been more free to act than people are imagining. Is the imagined expectation that the priest and altar servers would have swooped down from the altar and gotten involved while the situation was already being dealt with? The man at the door may have been better trained to deal with a violent intruder than priests, perhaps off duty law enforcement. Regardless, the clergy did exactly what civilians should do in that moment to avoid carnage- take cover and let ppl who know what they're doing resolve the issue (which they already were). I think it's unfair to criticize the clergy based on imagined scenario where the priest was the first line of defense- in most cases that wouldn't be the case just bc of the physical setup of most churches.

I don't really understand what is being imagined it would be better for the priest to do- run down and get involved even if he doesn't know what he's doing to look like a he-man in front of his congregants? That would be stupid and very unhelpful to any actual law enforcement or even just competent civilian taking care of the intruder. God forbid, bloodshed did occur - you want the priest available for last Rites and to protect the Sacrament above all. I think it's possibly a different scenario of say he's the only man in a little chapel of elderly women, say. But this is not that situation, and i see no issue with stepping back while the criminal is being dealt with literally at the door. And certainly imputing 'gayness' to a group of men taking cover while under threat from a man with a gun in the building.... is just totally out there- that's what most people should do in an active shooter situation and has zero to do with sexuality- ask any cop you know. Piling onto the bishop and clergy here out of a desire for a Harrison Butker like affirmation of manly men and womanly women seems so intensely twitter brained to me- take a second and think about how this likely unfolded in material reality...

Actual shooter (or wannabe shooter) situations are a mess, not a stageplay- again,

ask any soldier or law enforcement. It's very lucky that there were two individuals competent enough to hold back the attacker so no one was hurt. Shaming people for taking cover to score some culture war points is dangerous and dumb- that's often what people ought to do, it's not cowardice.

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