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Jane Psmith's avatar

I love your point about the traditional household economy, where the wife and children are also participants in the husband’s work. (Or really the family’s work!) The model of wage-earner and housewife — while definitely better than two wage-earners! — is relatively new historically and difficult in many ways. (It is hard to live all day in two separate worlds, for husband and wife.) But of course before the rise of wage labor it was both spouses in a primarily home/family context (even if that involved income beyond subsistence!). The industrialization that made male domestic production economically infeasible (and sent them to work for wages) also changed women’s roles. If you have a floor loom you can weave cloth at home while minding your small children and managing your household, but a factory full of mechanical looms makes that impossible even as it makes cloth infinitely cheaper. But the solution can’t be to abandon the home entirely!

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

Everything you say is true.

I and many, many of my friends found that the answer lies in not abandoning the home *at all* even if it means being "poor" which of course, in our society, is quite relative.

I want to break through the idea that it's just not possible.

It is possible.

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Jane Psmith's avatar

Oh, I agree. I’m just musing aloud. Which I can do because there’s a baby asleep in my arms and I know what’s for dinner!

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Louise (the mother)'s avatar

I am curious about your thoughts for young women who aren’t inclined toward a career and hope to get married and raise a family at home—how necessary is a college education for them? Is homeschooling college even a thing? It would be nice if there really was a good “housewife school” for the young woman in this position!

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Louise (the mother)'s avatar

BTW—I say “housewife school” knowing about your substack, which is such a great idea. And we are watching the video from your blog! But, my daughter is struggling with the answer to the question What are you doing now that you have graduated?

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

I encourage you to read the whole interview -- I do discuss this issue!

It's important for everyone to get a good education, but a degree does not equal an education.

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sadie's avatar

You can do college at home from just about every institution now. But.... why? Anymore, it's mostly propaganda. Certain vocations will require it like teaching or nursing but otherwise, waste of time. Better to spend the time figuring out one's strengths and desires, learning to give, be involved in community, travel... what matters is who we are inside, not degrees attained.

My son, and his male friends, would love to find a "stay at home" wife... no college degree or career required. 🙂

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

I think college in theory is a good idea for some. But you're right -- today it is a corrupted institution with very few exceptions. Online college is an oxymoron in my opinion, other than for straightforward certification purposes, which is just not what college is!

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sadie's avatar

Your comments on how a working mother affects her while circle is so true! My friends decided they needed money so took on part time occasional work.. and who did they ask to watch their kids? Me, the stay at home mom. Lol

After a few times I woke up and said no more. They didn't pay me because that would make the job not worth it to them. But even if they had paid me, the disruption to my time was not worth it. There are so many knock on effects when a mom works. The kids don't get the fully engaged attention they need.

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

The dirty secret of feminism! Other moms have to take up the slack -- and be paid nothing or very little!

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Dana Hope's avatar

Same! I was always that mom, too. At times I resented it but I always knew where my children were & they loved that our house was “that house”.

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